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1 LibreOffice Interoperability Strong & Weak Points Cor Nouws Nou&Off The Netherlands
2 proud member LibreOffice-community proud & thankful owner of Nou&Off LibreOffice-trainingcenter.nl & justice, the health of people and of the earth LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 2
3 Interoperability is.. Above all: nót suffering from a lock-in by a proprietary file format.. but for the time that ODF is not yet leading LibreOffice has to circumvent the issue So interoperability.. LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 3
4 .. is how serious? Number of people having issues User (home, work, skills) Easy/hard to workaround Not opening at all Type of work, send only, exchange, co-work LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 4
5 .. is how important? Perfection needed at any time? Image or text shifted a bit.. Most communication read-only > PDF! Fall back available MsOffice viewers, spare copy MsOffice Online PDF-creation services LibreOffice online But in the end: Editable file exchanges & complexity of files.. dó count! And often there is no properly & smart designed document LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 5
6 However, but, yes.. still.. Most of the times it s nót the end of the world, if track changes can t be used After all people work on so many devises with limitations And the user itself How does she act to solve a problem? How much is he distracted or not.. Just shouting out the document doesn t work?! Is it an emotional issue, perception, partly? May be, but.. what is easier to change, technical issues or people ;) LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 6
7 So we start improving.. Which is a good thing after all Less issues, also smaller ones, widen our audience fast However, fixes sometimes cause of diclose other bugs Then for fixing there is a long way to go LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 7
8 Let s have a look at an example LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 8
9 A real life example in 8 steps.. Dutch Government Should be ODF, but... Version 3.6 LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 9
10 Image..? Version 4.0 LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 10
11 Ah, much more info already Hé, frame with text box Version 4.2 LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 11
12 Better frames maybe.. But..??? Version 4.3 LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 12
13 Ah wow :) Hmm :(..? Version 4.4 LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 13
14 Oops..? Version 5.0, 5.1 LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 14
15 Nice.. Good! Ehh..? Version 5.2 LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 15
16 And now in 530-master Don t touch this anymore ;) LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 16
17 Do we have data? LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 17
18 What does BugZilla tell us? Issues for various components Query for proper keywords, file formats, fileopen in summary Disclaimer: relying on proper triage, summaries Not confirmed is not included, duplicates-not-yet-marked are.. * Resolved & Fixed Confirmed & Not Fixed Writer Math 6 18 Calc 4 18 Chart Impress 4 32 *) numbers in the table link to the queries in BugZilla LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 18
19 Items more mentioned for components Math, Charts, Impress Math Characters, size/rendering Charts Borders Axis Labels Font effects Impress Animations Shapes/SmartArt Text rendering Invalid saving All a bit mixed. No items that really strike LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 19
20 Items more mentioned in Calc Hyperlinks Filelinks RTL Pivot table Colors Row height Controls Again: all a bit mixed. No items that really strike LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 20
21 Items more mentioned for Writer Objects Images, Frames, OLE, Shapes, SmartArt Page formatting Headers/footers, Headers/footers with objects Paragraphs Indent, Spacing, Tabs, Bullets/Numbering Tables Width, Rotated text, Wrapping around, Nested Forms Lists, Outline numbering Confirmed and not resolved alone, Cross references count for 270 bugs.. Foot notes LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 21
22 So what s with objects Images, Frames, OLE, Shapes, SmartArt Wrapping For those items Positioning allone we count Ordering 53 bugs.. Especially with more frames, images Especially combined and in header/footers, tables Less severe/frequent: Visibility Rotation (Text)Rendering Have a strong influence on quality of documents LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 22
23 Bit more general data Critial / Major Writer 31 Math 1 Calc 3 Chart 6 Impress 2 LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 23
24 Why Writer? Widely used For all kind of tasks By anyone With all possible tricks After all, many still know how to use a type writer :) LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 24
25 Let s see another reall life example.. LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 25
26 An extreme example.. Summary in BugZilla: Docx files from Ms Word not opened in LibreOffice.. I quitted LibreOffice after 5 minutes But found later: in MsOffice it takes ~10 minutes :) LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 26
27 And this is how it looks in Word > 250 pages full with frames to constuct tables LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 27
28 LibreOffice did it faster, but.. Not placed as designed and no text at all LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 28
29 And don t forget fonts! Nearly perfect; only one paragraph too much But without the weird fonts and all spaces etc it was aweful Often causes issues in Impress LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 29
30 Only three slides left, with.. LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 30
31 If only... Idea: Font-telltale warn for missing fonts! Top wishes Images, object, frames (with anchored content etc) Paragraph distance, indent My take on this: Investigate the issues Header/footer issues create set of reference test with ~simple but comprehensive SmartArt and docs and issues and showing a much better to digest list from the query:) Highly impressed and pleased by: OSBA s Interoperability contributions Miloš Šrámek s automated bisection of interoperability regressions Michael Stahl s Functional Document Testing Many other developers hard work in this area LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 31
32 Grow the area where LibreOffice fits excellent Work flow / tasks + User skills +.. Quality of Interoperability! LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 32
33 Thank you for attending and supporting LibreOffice See you at the next conference! Contact me at All text and image content in this document is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License (unless otherwise specified). "LibreOffice" and "The Document Foundation" are registered trademarks. Their respective logos and icons are subject to international copyright laws. The use of these therefore is subject to the trademark policy. LibreOffice Interoperability - Strong & Weak Points / 33
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