As per given sort order at Pg 58, kindly mention position of standalone क in tabular format. BY Others
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1 Page S. No. Version No. Concern Status The draft should be vetted by two other independent wellknown Pending linguists, other than author(s) and their details to be shared. By TDIL Programme Also validation by two known application developer of Pending part-2 be carried out. By TDIL Programme Test Report of Akshara, is missing. Pending Pg Pg Pg 04 Since, document includes code point 090D (ऍ) and 0911 (ऑ) for loan words, kindly elaborate approach for code point 090E (ऎ ) and 0912 (ऒ) its combinations as per Unicode Ver 6.1 By TDIL Programme As per given sort order at Pg 58, kindly mention position of standalone क in tabular format. BY Others Spelling of शक त, Devnagari Vowel sign I (093F) should touch Devnagari Letter TA (0924), instead of Devnagari Letter KA (0915). Neither incorporated nor any citation or reference has been made. Comments. Incorporated, at the start of the table. Justification for the location to be given. Pending Remarks from CI
2 Pg Pg Pg Pg 28 Pt. C says, in Hindi conjunct of क+ + is only written as त with cited example of शक त Shakti. However in Marathi and Nepali writing style it is written as शक त ; As per observation, both forms of stacked क+ + are acceptable and operational in Hindi writing style. Therefore another combination of conjuncts can be taken or re-phrase sentence suggesting, Hindi accepts both stacked styles. By TDIL programme Pt 6.2 and Pt 6.3, starts with incomplete sentences or sentences can be rewritten. By Others It is defined that in a syllable; V can be followed by D but not by any sub-type. With the given rule as per matrix; kindly elaborate syllable structure for the following example: आईन, Act ऍतट, इथर, इ -उ, इल म, अम, आग, इन in, etc. Provide Hindi names of Punctuations under the list of punctuations, along with UNICODE name as well. E.g. Along with Coma, in bracket it could be given as Alpviram or for Hypen to be given as Yojak Chinh, etc. Rewrite foot note on Pg 04, without endorsing any publication house by taking name. Pending Based on Part -2, expand the Syllabalic and Akshar unit wrt to above cited examples. Remarks awaited. Devnagari names should be in transliterated form e.g. प रश न
3 Pg Page Pg Pg Page 47, 49, Pg By TDIL Programme Shape of Devanagri letter DDDHA & RHA (09;5C & 095D) with nukta is not clear. Display of ड़ ढ़. Display not clear, especially in print. Display of Devanangri Letter RHA, needs to be reviewed ; and if language rule is applied, please mention. ढ़ (Apply Arial Unicode MS) spelling of "in putted" By Others क ष :- क ष + + (Apply unicode MS) & क ष :- क ष + + By Others Revisit the line for the shapes of Devanagri letter DDDHA & Devanangri Letter RHA. Display not clear, especially in print All Spellings should be checked like : त क क षण क, अ र द व र दव By Others च ह न to be written as Prashn Chinh (use IAST) Display needs to be crytal clear. Display need to be crytal clear Display not clear, especially in print Nukta is not visible. These should be valid and linguistically correct words.
4 Pg 51 Spelling on foot note, may be reviewed. In Devanagari, the following matra is used for indicating the original Old IndoAryan retroflex vowel ऋ. Thus, प + is written as प, क + is written as क etc. With other alphabets the combination is given except with the voiceless palatal sibilant Comments श. Moreover, there does exist one major issue regarding the shape of the ligature. The correct shape of श + is written as but it is not found in the typed form in most of the Unicode fonts (i.e. Mangal, Arial) except fonts like Sanskrit Hence, the word is often found to be typed wrongly as ग र where there is no need of the rakar placed before. Note that = श + र and it has been assigned one key shift 8 and it can also be written if we type श first, then d and र. The reason to assign one separate key (hence, separate Unicode character for is not clear). Instead of this, there should be one separate key, i.e. one Unicode character, for श + = The script grammar has nowhere mentioned BY CIIL Mysore
5 18 Under section some three consonants combinations are given. It is mentioned that only the majors are listed below but it is not clear what is the criteria for choosing the major ones. There must also be criteria based on initial, medial and final CCC consonant clusters (not random as given in the section). For example, Initial : म,,, प Medial : आम, आव, क,, य, न, ", ", $ य, $ऽ, $श, $क, $)य, $*ल, $झल, $ क, $ म, $ प Final : आ, आम, आय, य., $ऽ, ऽय, य, $ य, $/, $क, $, $1, 2य., 3य., य., म., क., )व., 4., व., 56य, 8य, श,, 9य Comments It should be noted here that all the above CC clusters are found frequently in the LDCIL Hindi corpus (approx. 3 million). BY CIIL Mysore
6 19 Specifically syllables with vowel sign get repeated. Example : आ (Vowel sign आ (U+0906) repeated with Matra (U+093E) ) As per present script grammar we are not allowing these syllables. Comments BY Pravin Statpute 20 Shape of ख can be modify as per the direction of द वन गर ललपप थ ह द व न क म नक कर, क द र य ह द ननद श लय, नई हदल ल -2010, page no-3 and 9. Comments By Dr Sudhir Mishra 21 Suggestion: Additional chart for Consonant combination with both Rafar and rakar. BY TDIL Programme
7 S. No MoM Ver Suggestions/Concern based on Meetings held in August & December, 2012 Point No Part- 1 for font developers allows inclusion of valid and invaid combinations. Status CI Comments Part -2 for application developer necessitates inclusion of valid/invalid consonant combinations as annexure, where invalid combinations should be marked in colour and a disclaimer may be added, suggesting, views of different experts (linguists) varies No inputs provided regarding CIC & advice developers of application to not to display & store on typing these combinations No inputs provided Incorporated IAST not uniformly followed Will be introduced later For CHD copyright material, similar examples be created of linguistic rules by author Incorporated standalone क, added at the start of table, however as per comments in 20th international Unicode Confernce by Cathy Wissink, consonant with three modifiers U+901, U+902, U+903
8 sort before unmarked consonant followed by vowel modifiers. Therefore, it seems क is incorporated wrongly in sort order example, on Page Incorporated As per normalization rules of UNICODE, needs clarity for क + --->क Additional Points: Refernce to CHD Rules: For each rule quoted from CHD documents, source should be explicitly mentioned & be typed out Additional Points: Indic definition to be included in both forms as given in document and as described in CLDR /W3C, refer attached document on Akshara/Indic Definition. Also linguistic and technical applicability of both definition in font and s/w application context to be explained in the document and their use in various areas like MT system may be shared.
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