Challenges in the Computational Modeling of Multi-physics Processes and Systems

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Challenges in the Computational Modeling of Multi-physics Processes and Systems with a special focus on fluid-structure interaction (FSI) June 20, 2007

Agenda NAFEMS Multi-Physics Webinar June 20, 2007 12:00pm EST (GMT -05:00, New York) Welcome & Introduction Matthew Ladzinski, NAFEMS North American Representative Challenges in the Computational Modeling of Multi- physics Processes and Systems with a special focus on fluid-structure t interaction ti (FSI) Dr. Mark Cross, University of Wales, Swansea Dr. Avril Slone, University of Wales, Swansea Q&A Session Closing www.nafems.org

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Challenges in the Computational Modeling of Multi-physics Processes and Systems with a special focus on fluid-structure interaction ti (FSI) Mark Cross and Avril K. Slone Center for Civil and Computational Engineering School of Engineering University of Wales, Swansea m.cross@swan.ac.uk; ac a.k.slone@swan.ac.uk ac

Why Multi-physics Modelling? Large number of real world problems require multiphysics simulation tools. Examples Solidification problems Solder Joints Fluid-Structure interaction Flutter in aircraft wings Need to solve for integrated physics Ensure two-way coupling Fluid Flow Heat Transfer Stress Analysis Electromagnetics

Challenge of multi-physics Multi-physics -closely coupled interactions amongst separate continuum physics phenomena CAE analysis software essentially phenomena specific : - CFD - FV techniques with segregated iterative solvers - CSM - FE techniques with direct solver structure - CAA & CEM uses any of FE/FV/BE/FDTD techniques plus heritage software approaches that go with each. Must ensure accurate filtering and mapping of data for volume source and boundary data Must ensure that where needed, the mesh and geometries deform compatibly

Directly Coupled Problems Ka = f K = K f K fs K ft K sf K s K st K tf K K K K ts K t a = a f f f A single code for all phenomena a f s = f s coupling direct a t f t

Staggered Solution: K fn a fn = f fn - g 1 (a s n-1,a t n-1 ) f f f 1 s t K sn a sn = f sn - g 2 (a fn,a t n-1 ) K tn a tn = f tn - g 3 (a sn,a tn ) Impact of using distinct solvers for each phenomenon Explicit or implicit

Classifying multi-physics Most vendors advertise multi-physics Most vendors offer multi-disciplinary Multi-disciplinary using data generated by one code as input into another loose or one way coupling (e.g. electric field loading a thermal calculation) Multi-physics two way exchange of information, which could involve implicit convergence within a time-step (e.g. thermo-mechanical) Closely coupled multi-physics time and space accurate exchange of data (e.g. dynamic fluid-structure interaction)

Interpolation from one set of variables to another => compatibility of mesh Key issues in closely coupled multi-physics simulation Virtual single database of mesh data & simulation variables Solver strategy - direct vs iterative - Eulerian vs Lagrangian Is coupling strategy compatible with scalable parallelism, EVEN if software sot aecomponents tsaepaa are parallel Phys-A Phys-B

Multi-physics: coupling issues a) Existing component phenomena analysis software coupling b) Need a filter structure for code interoperability:- exchange information directly from each others database without opening closing files c) Options here derive from tools for developed for parallelisation especially PVM, MPI and specifically MpCCI d) Interoperability not equivalent to simulating physics of coupling e) Remaining Challenge - parallel scalability of interoperable codes

MpCCI a tool for code interoperability Emerged from an EU project public domain OPEN SOURCE tools www.scai.fraunhofer.de/mpcci.0.html A number of MpCCI facilitated code couplings: - ABAQUS + FLUENT for DFSI - STAR-CD + NASTRAN for DFSI MpCCI here to stay and facilitates genuine coupling initial experiences not trouble free, but..

Sector Specific multi-physics Software Castings PROCAST http://www.ues-software.com MAGMASOFT http://www.magmasoft.com Forming DEFORM http://www.deform.com SUPERFORGE http://www.mscsoftware.com FORGE3 http://www.transvalor.com Polymers C-Mold http://www.moldflow.com Joining Processes SYSWELD http://www.esi-group.com Electronic cooling Flotherm http://www.flomerics.com

Commercial CAE analysis - a web survey Tools claiming multi-physics capabilities: ANSYS/Multi-physics http://www.ansys.com ABAQUS http://www.abaqus.com ADINA http://www.adina.com ALGOR http://www.algor.com AUTODYN http://centurydynamics.com CFD-ACE http://www.esi-group.com DYNA http://www.lsc.com com COMSOL http://www.comsol.com/ LMS software http://www.lms.com MSC- NASTRAN http://www.mscsoftware.com PHYSICA+ http://www.physica.co.uk STAR-CCM+ http://www.adapco.com com

Alternative approach: Single Software Framework Key route to closely coupled multi-disciplinary (multi- physics) simulation Basic requirements of a SSF: - consistency of mesh for all phenomena - compatibility in the solution approaches to each of the phenomena - single database & memory map so that no data transfer & efficient memory use between programs -facility to enable accurate exchange of boundary or volume sources (e.g. body force) -enables scalable parallel operation for all physics interactions

Single software frameworks for multi-physics COMSOL - FE solver technology with some phenomena specific modules - Nice environment; easy to use STAR-CD (& STAR-CCM+ emerging) - FV solver technology, polyhedral element - CFD based with strong meshing PHYSICA - Mixed FV (for flow, etc) & FV or FE (for stress)

Straightforward multi-physics CFD CSM Potential Potential eqn: Anything involving -Heat Potential eqn coupled -Electric field To some other physics -etc

Helium laser cooling system Physics: - Heat generation through electrical discharge - Heat conduction through cooling system -Flow through cooling pipes Helium -All coupled Aluminium Water

Boundary Conditions Heat Transfer Coefficient Defined on outer boundaries Adiabatic on inner and end boundaries Heat Flux into Helium 20 Watts / cm length Water flowing at 200 cc/min in central pipe Inflow at 20 C Return Pipes share 200 cc/min

Temperature Profiles Definitely multi-physics BUT straightforward

Multi-physics Modelling Physics Requirements Fluid Flow Heat transfer Solidification/phase change Stress Electro-magnetics Acoustics Geometry Complex MULTI-PHYSICS UNSTRUCTURED Large simulations PARALLEL Key issue: CFD capability

Continuous casting process: example of CFD based multi-physics Mixture of liquid steel and argon injected into rectangular mould Liquid metal flux sits on top of mould Water cooled mould extracts energy forming a solid steel shell Continuous withdrawal B.G. Thomas

Solution domain

Solves: φ + t Free surface (SEA) u. φ = 0 where φ is the fraction of metal in a cell van Leer scheme used to reduce smearing of interface continuity equation solved for volume not mass properties a linear combination of phases present

Solidification Strand Top view End View z Solid regions appear in blue

Clustering of argon bubbles

Electromagnetic brake simulations Computations were also performed to estimate the effects of EMB on the free surface. For this the Maxwell equations were solved, which with the usual MHD assumptions, lead to: Continuity of magnetic flux:.b= 0 Ohm's Law for conducting metals Induction equation Lorentz force: BMagnetic Transport, or t J = σ( E +U B ), where E = - φ = (U B )+ η F L = J B B where, η = 2 1 σ μ m Note: Terms containing the velocity U, are only important when R m (=LU/η)> 1

Brake arrangement S N Two electromagnets of opposite polarity (B y =±0.4T ) placed in the jet region to reduce velocity and hence, surface deformation

Fluid behaviour under EMB conditions Flow suppressed here B=0 0.4T B=0T

Coupled EM-flow calculations For most practical calculations in metals processing: The EM field influences the flow and thermal fields BUT the thermo-fluid phenomena has little influence of the EM fields Hence, essentially one way coupling So calculate the EM field and calculate the thermal and flow loads in the CFD calculation Can implement above model in any good CFD code!

Welding processes simulation - natural multi-physics Processes involve: free surface flow electromagnetic forces heat transfer with solidification/melting development of non-linear stress Ideal candidate for multi-physics modelling

T-Junction arc weld simulation

Experiment and simulation FEMGV 5.1-01 Greenwich University 28 FEB 2000 Model: T_J CASE1: PHYSICA Results Step: 1 TIME: 0 Nodal LFN Max = 1 Min = 0 Y Z X.909.818.727.636.545.455.364.273.182.909E-1 T-junction section, highlighting hli h i HAZ region

Distortion of T-junction due to heat source Heat source

Weld pool dynamics Velocity vectors in crossection Lorentz force distribution in the weld-pool

Distortion of T-junction due to heat source Distortion

Welding multi-physics BUT.. Welding involves: - free surface fluid flow - heat transfer and solidification/melting -electro-magnetic fields - non-linear stress BUT.. no coupling back: - from thermo-fluids to EM field - from stress calculation to thermo-fluids SO.. reasonably loosely coupled

Generic Dynamic Fluid Structure Interaction Closely coupled multi-disciplinary problem Time & space accurate Traction Very challenging in every respect. Issue of GCL CFD Mesh adaptation Implementation of boundary conditions. Features of single software framework: Consistency of mesh. Single database & memory map. Compatibility in the solution approaches FV-UM. boundary condition CSM Deformation

Three Phase Approach CSD d on Γ fs CMD K d = m d m F m M d&& + Cd& + Kd = F s ( t ) tn tn+1 u m on Γ fs t p = σ on fs Γ fs CFD Generalised Newtonian Continuity

PHYSICA: Spatial Discretisation for closely coupled multi-physics Unstructured mesh Finite Element Finite Volume Vertex Based CFD Mesh Element Element Cell centred Or mixed CC- VB FV CSM Vertex based FV/FE Gauss Point x x Node x x x x x x x x x x x Finite Volume Cell Centred Control Volume Integration Point Control Volume

Dynamic fluid-structure interaction Targeted at problems involving flow induced vibrations Use dynamic structural equations and Navier-Stokes flow equations Wind direction Flow induced vibrations

Dynamic response of structure without flow

Fluid Velocity and Pressure Movies At tip of wing

Shear Stress σ xy Movie xy

Bio-medical multi-physics modelling: the heart! Heart a multi-physics system, featuring interactions between: - electro-chemical system - fluid - structure

Geometry 2D model Right ventricle 0.045m 0.01m 0.01m Inlet Outlet 0.08m Image from www.heartvalves.8m.com Wall Blood 0.005m

Electro-fluid-structure interaction Electrical Structure Fluid flow Mesh dynamics

Coupling electrical field to structural mechanics Assumption made that small strain model can capture behaviour of heart wall Dominant behaviour of wall is contraction/expansion Shearing effects negligible Elastic model Change in potential results in a change in tension in the heart wall To model tension we introduce an electric strain into structural mechanics equations

Simulation results t=1e-4s 1 structure calc every 10 flow time-steps Calculation time 12 hours 6K element mesh 18 variables per node

Some health warnings on FSI Exchanging data between a CFD code & an FEA code does not amount to anything but loosely coupled FSI (e.g. welding) For anything other than coupled FSI: Ask - at what level does the coupling occur? Ask - is the procedure time and space accurate? Ask - what tests have you done to ensure this is the case? Ask does your code include the GCL in its procedure?

Parallel Multi-Physics Modelling NAFEMS World Congress Vancouver, May 2007

Exploiting parallel cluster technology: the challenge MpCCI and other filter technologies Code A (CFD) Map onto Parallel cluster Upside enables interaction at the code d base level Filter tech: BOTTLENECK Downside all data exchange must go via filter and is a compute bottleneck wrt scalability on parallel clusters Code B (FEA) Map onto Parallel cluster

Parallelisation approach uses mesh partitioning SPMD strategy with non-uniform workload Partition of 3D unstructured mesh by JOSTLE assuming a homogeneous load balance across the mesh: - load balanced ( even no of cells per node) - minimises i i sub-domain interface elements - sub-domain connectivity matches processor topology of the parallel system

Involves large scale deformation of metal work-piece through interaction with one or more dies Multi-physics problem Flow/deformation o o of work-piece Heat transfer generated by internal friction Stress/strain in die(s) Metal Forming - Extrusion

Workpiece Mixed Eulerian-Lagrangian g Approach Eulerian mesh Free-surface algorithm to track deformation Non-Newtonian Newtonian material model Heat transfer plus energy generated by internal friction Die Lagrangian mesh Mechanical behaviour coupled with: Thermal behaviour in workpiece Fluid traction load from workpiece

Extrusion through U-shaped die Initial diameter = 200mm 47.62 mm Bearing length = 2.5mm Punch speed = 5.85E-3m/s 4.76 mm 41.27 mm Workpiece = 470 C Die = 450 C Air = 30 C 63220 elements 69507 nodes

Temperature contours in extruding work-piece

Effective stress contours and deformation of die

Parallel results Run time Speed- (hours) up 1 81.9 1 4 18.3 4.48 8 10.2 8.03 Processors 12 7.5 10.92 16 6.1 13.43 Single phase mesh partitions on 16 processors Itanium IA 64 cluster running Linux OS Eight nodes, two 733MHz processors per node Each node with 2 Gb memory & 2Gb swap space

Conclusion Multi-physics simulation is emerging in a commercially supported manner Most successful multi-physics is based upon loose or one-way coupling even then, heroic computing Close coupling in time and space another ball game - Key here are procedures for time & space accurate simulations; DFSI a key exemplar Multi-physics essentially compute intensive leads to challenge of parallel scalability for multi-physics simulation tools Can do for bespoke single software solutions, but for multi-code li components, not so clear! Challenges for the future integrating components using essentially distinctive model paradigms & solver strategies t