How to setup a perfect project for AutoCAD P&ID and Plant 3D.

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1 How to setup a perfect project for AutoCAD P&ID and Plant 3D. Carsten Beinecke CAD STUDIO ABCOM GmbH, Germany Dinant Weenk CAD STUDIO ABCOM GmbH, The Netherlands Code PD1408 Learning Objectives At the end of this class, you will be able to: Gather information Setup AutoCAD P&ID Setup AutoCAD Plant 3D Installation in a network environment Manage Data Make use of Advanced Features Consider 3 rd party solutions About the Speaker Selling, Supporting, Training, Developing and Using Autodesk based Plant products since AutoCAD Release 10 (incl. 3D piping). Writing training manuals in German and English.

2 Table of Content Learning Objectives... 1 About the Speaker... 1 Gather information... 4 Setup AutoCAD P&ID... 5 Step 1: Analyze and compute the info from your checklist... 5 Step 2: Create classes, properties and selection lists... 6 Assets (Symbols and Lines)... 6 Project & Drawing Properties... 8 Creating Selection Lists...10 Step 3: Define acquisition rules...12 Step 4: Create template drawings (DWT)...16 Step 5: Create Tags and Annotations...18 Creating Tags...18 Creating Annotations & Labels...22 Step 6: Create Symbols & Lines...27 Creating Lines...28 Creating Symbols...29 Setup AutoCAD Plant 3D...36 Step 1: Analyze and compute the info from your checklist...36 Step 2: Create properties, acquisition rules and selection lists...37 Properties...37 Acquisition Rules...37 Step 3: Create template drawings (DWT)...37 Step 4: Create Tags and Annotations...38 Tags...38 Annotations...39 Step 5: Create Catalogs & Specs...39 Step 6: Setup AutoCAD Isometrics...40 Step 7: Layer & Color Settings...47 Step 8: Piping Connection Settings

3 Step 9: P&ID Object Mapping...51 Create a folder structure...54 File Name Format...56 Installation in a network environment...58 Tool Palettes D Content...59 Manage Data...62 SQLite vs. SQL Server...62 Setting up Reports with AutoCAD Plant Report Creator...64 Export and Import settings...67 Using views in Data Manager...70 Make use of Advanced Features...72 Create a second Tag...72 Linking external Data sources...74 Scripting in Report Creator...76 Consider 3 rd party solutions

4 Gather information Before you get started configuring anything in AutoCAD P&ID or AutoCAD Plant 3D you need to gather all the information you can get your hands on. Typically you gather P&IDs from former projects, lists and reports you created so far. How do your Section and View drawings as well as Isos look like? Sometimes there may be a company standard (e.g. tagging system, prototype drawings with layers, text styles and so on). All that info flows into a document or check list so you don t get lost when you start to configure. 4

5 Setup AutoCAD P&ID Since there are a lot of dependencies between the various sections of the configuration there is a recommended way on how to go through the steps of the configuration. Step 1: Analyze and compute the info from your checklist Write down the info for the different areas you need to make modifications for. In the picture below you see what areas to cover: Classes, Symbols, Properties, Tags and Annotations 5

6 Step 2: Create classes, properties and selection lists Assets (Symbols and Lines) The first thing you start with is adding additional classes for new symbols. Moving sub-classes from one class to another (e.g. the Sight Glass is now supposed to be under Hand Valves) is not possible. You have to remove the old class and create a new one under the new section. Before you start creating properties which contain essentially all the data for your Tags, Annotations, Lists and Reports you have to think about where you create the properties. In the picture below you see the main class structure of the P&ID section of the overall configuration. 6

7 A property created for a class will be available for all sub-classes of that class. So creating a property for Engineering Items is available for Equipment, Inline Assets, Instrumentation, Lines and Nozzles. If you need a property be available for equipment only, then you create it for the Equipment class. When you select Equipment class you recognize a * in front of the first six properties. This indicates that these properties are from a class above (and maybe even further up the tree). The order of properties can t be changed. 7

8 New properties will be added at the end. The property name can t be changed either, but the Display name can. The property type can t be changed as well. If name or type has to be changed you need to delete the property and create it again. Project & Drawing Properties Besides the Asset properties there are project and drawing properties as well. These properties can be used for Tags and Annotations as well. Very often there you used to fill out the title block of your drawing. 8

9 Below you see the default Project properties. As you can see the values of Project properties can be typed in within Project Setup only. The Drawing properties created in Project Setup, 9

10 can be edited by making a right-click on the drawing in Project Manager. Creating Selection Lists There is no entry in the tree structure on the left side of Project Setup where you can find a list of all the Selection Lists. Therefore you need to find a property in a class that shows List as a Property Type. In the following picture you see for example that Pipe Line Group has been selected. 10

11 If you click on Edit the Selection List Property dialogbox opens up and lets you make changes to all the Selection Lists. Before closing the dialogbox make sure that you have selected the Selection List of the property when you clicked on Edit. Otherwise the wrong Selection List will be assigned to your property. Also check the Default Value of the property, because the first value of the Selection List will be used as the Default Value and you probably want to have a blank Default Value. 11

12 Step 3: Define acquisition rules AutoCAD P&ID allows acquiring data from other classes. For example the Hand Valves acquire Size and Spec from the Pipe Line Segments. You can acquire data from your drawing and project properties as well. Having said this, there are limitations too. Below you see the list from the AutoCAD P&ID Help listing the existing relationships. LINE and INLINE ASSET LINE and START ASSET LINE and END ASSET LINE and ARROW ANNOTATED and ANNOTATION LINE and BREAK LINE and PAGE CONNECTOR LINE and NOZZLE PIPE LINE GROUP and PIPE LINE SIGNAL LINE GROUP and SIGNAL LINE PIPE LINE GROUP and SIGNAL LINE GROUP (if you manually associated the groups using SLGROUPEDIT). This list may seem a little to theoretical, especially if you don t know all the classes and expressions yet. Therefore it s good practice even for seasoned users to sometime just check what works. 12

13 Equipment can acquire from: Inline Assets and Instrumentations from: 13

14 Lines from almost everything except from other Lines: 14

15 Nozzles from: Pipe Line Group from: First thing you may notice is that Spec and Size are not listed (for whatever reason). If a Pipe Line Group acquires data from a Line the value will be acquired only if the multiple segments of the Pipe Line Group have the same value. Otherwise you ll get a? as a result. As the list of relationships above suggests there would be some more screenshots. Just try yourself a little. 15

16 Step 4: Create template drawings (DWT) Drawing template files for P&IDs or no different than regular DWT files. So if you already have existing DWTs you can use them. Frame and Title block can be in Model or Paper space. What you can add is the properties from your Project or Drawing. For that you simply use the AutoCAD Command FIELD. For the Project properties select CurrentProjectCustom. You then can select the Custom property category and Custom property name. 16

17 For the Drawing properties you select CurrentDwgCustom. 17

18 Step 5: Create Tags and Annotations Creating Tags The Tag is a unique identifier in a Project. The Tag has to be unique no matter what the class as well. For example you can t have a Tag V101 for an Equipment and also V101 for a Hand Valve. By default Tags can be defined for: Equipment Hand Valves Piping Specialty Items Pipe Line Segments Signal Line Segments Instrumentation Nozzles Pipe Line Groups In general: Where ever there is a Tag property you can define Tag Formats. You can define multiple Tag Formats for one class also. If you want to modify a Tag Format you select the Tag Format and click on Modify You can create a new Tag Format by using an existing one as a template. Again just select a Tag Format and this time click on New 18

19 Next the Tag Format Setup dialog opens up. Here you can select first of all from how many subparts your Tag is made of. Using the German KKS System you have at least 5 6 sub-parts. Sometimes customization brings you up to 8 10, but often less is more. So don t over do it just because you can. Between each sub-part you can define a delimiter. If you don t need on then just delete it. For each sub-part you have four button to chosse from where the data comes from. Selecting from Class properties Selecting from Drawing properties Selecting from Project properties Defining expressions or using auto-generated values If selecting Class properties you will be shown the properties of the class the Tag Format is for. 19

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21 If you uncheck Use Target Object s Property you will see all classes with all properties. Even though you may have now all classes and properties at your disposal, you can select only those properties which are in a relationship with the class you are defining the Tag Format for. For example if defining the Tag for Equipment you can t use properties of Hand Valves. Again you may want to play a little bit to find out what works. 21

22 If you created a new Tag you have to assign the new Tag to your class. This is done at the TagFormatName property. Creating a Tag Format for the Equipment class doesn t mean that you have to assign this Tag for the Equipment class as well. Maybe your Tag Format is needed only for some specific Equipment (e.g. Mechanical Drivers). Then you select the Mechanical Drivers class and change the TagFormatName property there. Creating Annotations & Labels Crating Annotations is essentially no different than creating Tags. Again you can create as many Annotations as you want. It is also important that you be aware for which class you create a new Annotation. If you create an Annotation for a specific class the Annotation will be available for this class and all it s sub-classes. You can delete an Annotation or edit its Bock only at the class where the Annotation was created. 22

23 If you use Edit Block to make changes to an Annotation the Block Editor opens up and shows the Annotation and a one button Toolbox. An Annotation is usually made out of Attributes and some Standard AutoCAD Elements like Lines. If you need multiple Attributes you just copy the existing one and adapt the Attribute to your liking (Text Height, Text Style and so on). Below you see an example for a Pump Info Tag. 23

24 If you click on the button of the Toolbox you are asked to select an Attribute. Then a familiar dialog opens up. As with Tag Formats you can have multiple properties represented in one Attribute. 24

25 Tip: In the Assign Tag dialog you will see only those Annotations which have the property Tag in it. So if your Annotation is made out of single Properties and Tag is not among them it won t show up here. 25

26 However, it will be listed at the context menu. 26

27 If you create an Annotation you maybe don t want to move it with your symbol. It is supposed to stay where you positioned it. If this is the case you have to set the Annotation property to Linked = No. Step 6: Create Symbols & Lines Now that you set up Properties, Acquisition Rules, Tags and Annotations you may want to create your own Lines and Symbols. Lines and Symbols are stored in the projsymbolstyle.dwg in your project folder). Also all Text Styles, Layer and Line Styles are stored in here. If you want to select a layer or Line Style to a Line or Symbol the Layer and Text Style will be used from within the projsymbolstyle.dwg. 27

28 Creating Lines If you want to create a new Line (no difference between Pipe Lines and Signal Lines) you just need to create a new class. After that you can click on the Edit Line button to modify the Line properties. Under Symbol Properties you can define whether or not you want a Flow Arrow be placed automatically when drawing this Line. Gap priority allows you to set a value between 1 and 9. 1 being the highest priority and 9 the lowest. This influences the way Lines are broken when crossing. The line with the higher priority won t be broken. 28

29 When you add a Line to the Tool Palette the Line will be shown as a simple black line. Make a Right-click on it and select Properties. In the next Dialog you make a Right-Click on the image and select Specify image. This allows you select an image file. The resolution of the image should be 32x32. Creating Symbols Creating Symbols works a little different than creating a Line. When you select a class which has no Symbol assigned to it yet only the Add Symbols button is enabled. 29

30 The first thing you do is select the drawing which contains the blocks you want to use for the Symbols. It isn t mandatory that you use the projsymbolstyle.dwg. Maybe you have a drawing which contains all your blocks and you want to use this drawing. If you have a bunch of blocks you want to integrate in your project it is recommended to add all those blocks into the projsymbolstyle.dwg. This just speeds up the process. If you want to just create a new symbol and you don t have a block yet, you select the projsymbolstyle.dwg (as shown in the picture below). Next you select a block which may or may not be close to the Symbol you want to create. 30

31 You can actually add multiple blocks to your selection. 31

32 In the next dialog you now can set the various properties and assign the proper class as well. You have to type in a Symbol Name otherwise you will be asked to do so. Now the block is assigned to our class, but we still need to change the block. This procedure is needed only if you used a copy of an existing Symbol and we need to change the Symbol now. If you used a block of your own from your own source, you already assigned the proper block to the class. 32

33 If we used a copy of a block we have to firstly save the block under a different name. For that we click on Edit Block to open the Block Editor. The first thing you do is used Save Block As to save the block under a different name. Type in a new block name. 33

34 Now you can make your modifications and then just close the Block Editor. Tip: It is recommended to use BYLAYER for Color and Line Type and put the objects on Layer 0. Now you have to assign the new block to your Symbol. 34

35 Again you select the projsymbolstyle.dwg of your Project and select your new block. Now you are done. Last step is to add the Symbol to the Tool Palette. 35

36 Setup AutoCAD Plant 3D Other than AutoCAD P&ID there is not much you can configure with AutoCAD Plant 3D. However we will go through the step where you can lay your hands on. A lot of configuration is done for AutoCAD Isometrics. And of course specs and catalogs. There are a lot of differences between AutoCAD P&ID and AutoCAD Plant 3D if it comes to the class structure. Between the Line Group and the Assets there are no Line Segements. Step 1: Analyze and compute the info from your checklist As with AutoCAD P&ID the Project Setup looks familiar. We see Classes, Properties, Tags and Annotations. 36

37 Step 2: Create properties, acquisition rules and selection lists Properties The classes are already defined and can t really be extended. The class, to which an Asset belongs too, is predetermined by the catalog. You can of course create additional properties. The same rules apply as with AutoCAD P&ID. Acquisition Rules Other than AutoCAD P&ID creating Acquisition Rules in AutoCAD Plant 3D is very restricted. There are a bunch of rules pre-defined for PipeRunComponents. You can also add you own Acquisition Rules, but you are more or less limited to acquiring from the P3d Line Group. Step 3: Create template drawings (DWT) Template drawings are actually used for different types of drawings. One being for the 3D drawings themselves the other is for Ortho drawings. For the 3D source drawings you usually don t need to worry about too much. Maybe setup your AutoCAD grid and snap and some other standard AutoCAD settings. 37

38 More important are the drawing templates for your deliverables in this case for your Orthos. The drawing template which will be used when creating a new drawing are set under Paths. There are also drawing templates for Isos, but they are defined in the Isometric DWG Settings of Project Setup. Like with AutoCAD P&ID you can define the drawing template any way you want and use the Field command again to have the title block filled out with Project and Drawing properties. Step 4: Create Tags and Annotations Tags There are some classes where a Tag is and can be defined. P3d Line Group, Equipment, Instrument, Nozzle, Support and Valve. You can of course add your own Tag Formats or change the existing ones. 38

39 Annotations Annotations are used if you want to annotate the objects (usually Equipment, Pipe Lines and/or Valves) in Orthos. For PipeRunComponents there are already a lot of different types of Annotations. Step 5: Create Catalogs & Specs Having the Catalogs and Specs ready when you start routing your pipe is one of the most important things. If the Specs aren t ready at the beginning and you have to use some generic Specs you have to change your routed pipes during your project. It is actually easy to change the spec of a pipe line, but there can be still be issues, because now the flanges a longer then with the old Specs, or the actuator of a valve is much bigger, hence you have to adapt the routing and so on. 39

40 AutoCAD Plant 3D allows you to create block based contents as well as the use of scripts which allow you a broad variety of shaps. And for the hard-core users out there, there is even the possibility to create your own scripts to have the shape you want/need. Step 6: Setup AutoCAD Isometrics Setting up AutoCAD Isometric is a big topic and needs a lot of experience. Explaining how to setup AutoCAD Isometrics can take hours. Therefore I just want to give some hints before you get started. Most of the configuration is done under the Isometric DWG Settings in your Project Setup. In addition to that there is the IsoConfig.xml file which does exist for each Style (e.g. Check_ANSI- B). 40

41 If it comes to the matter of creating your own Iso-Symbol you may want to take a look at the IsoSkeyAcadBlockMap.xml and IsoSymbolStyles.dwg in the Isometric folder under your Project Folder. When switching between the different sections of the configuration (Iso Style Setup, Annotations, Dimensions and so on), make sure that you always use the same Iso Style. 41

42 Iso Style Setup sets up the general style of your Iso. You can for example switch to Spooled Isos. 42

43 Annotations allows you to setup what should actually be annotated. As soon as you activated one of the checkboxes under Annotations shown on drawings the corresponding section on the dialog will be enabled for further setup. 43

44 Dimensions allows you to setup the way the objects on the drawing are supposed to be dimensioned. If needed you can select one of the preset Iso themes. 44

45 Sloped and Offset Piping allows you to setup the way you want to see sloped and offset piping 45

46 Title Block and Display allows you to setup the Title Block as well as editing the Isometric Symbols. If you want to make changes to the Iso-Setup bring a lot of time, because you just get lost in the possibilities to adapt it to your requirements. 46

47 Step 7: Layer & Color Settings AutoCAD Plant 3D sets the layer and color of your PipeRunComponents automatically by default. If you want to handle this yourself, you can just turn it off. Also you can define various Layer/Color Settings. Of course only one can be active at a given time. 47

48 As a Layer you can select any Property of the PipeRunComponent class. You can of course create your own Property just for the Layer Control. 48

49 For the Color you can use any selection list. Again you can use your own Property using your own Selection List. For each of the values of your Selection List you can define a color. Step 8: Piping Connection Settings The Piping Connection Settings define the rules on how AutoCAD Plant 3D Objects have to be put together. This is a topic for very very advanced users. You have to do a lot of testing to make any changes. There is a direct correlation between the port properties of your Pipe Run Components and the settings in this dialog. For example: If you put a Valve in a Pipe you have two BV/FL connections. Under Compound Joint it says to insert a Flange for each connection. Then the Simple Joints kicks in. Now we have two FL/FL connections. Because of the Simple Joint setting a Gasket and Bolt Set will be inserted in-between the flanges. So that s the general idea behind the Joint Setup, but before you make any changes here it is highly recommended that you backup your Project first. 49

50 In some occasions you even may have to do some editing in the DefaultConnectorsConfig.xml file which is located in your Project Folder. 50

51 Step 9: P&ID Object Mapping PI&D Object Mapping defines which AutoCAD Plant 3D Object to insert if the user wants to insert an AutoCAD P&ID Object from the P&ID Line List. 51

52 To make this work or to adapt this you select the P&ID class and assign an AutoCAD Plant 3D class to it. In addition to that you can define which properties have to match. 52

53 The mapping is used mostly for Valves. If you want to add another mapping for Valves there will be a sub-selection of different 3D Valves. This is unique to Valves. If you want to add a mapping for reducers you will see that there is no sub-selection. You have to decide yourself if the Object Mapping makes sense to you to help you speed up the process of inserting your AutoCAD P&ID Objects. 53

54 Create a folder structure Sometimes it makes sense to create a default folder structure with Project Manager. The way you set up your folder is completely up to you. You can create as a first level Areas and below these folders folders for different disciplines. Or you just create folders for the various disciplines. If you create a folder you have the option to have the folder name as a sub-folder name in your project. This way your drawing files are stored in sub-folders. 54

55 The result could look like this: 55

56 File Name Format The File Name Format allows you to pre-define your own format on how the file name should be constructed. You can use either String or Numeric values or you can use Selection Lists (from the P&ID section). 56

57 If you then create a new drawing the dialog could look like this. As you can see you still have the possibility to override the file name. 57

58 Installation in a network environment This chapter is about how to put your content on your network folder. Your projects will be located on your network drive anyway (at least this is very likely). Tool Palettes By default the Tool Palettes are located on your local drive. If you create additional P&ID Symbols and put them on your Tool Palette, you will be the only one having them on your Tool Palette, but your colleagues are supposed to have them on their Tool Palettes as well. So if you think about creating your own P&ID Symbols you should start exporting your Tool Palettes and put them on a central network folder. Before everybody now starts importing the Tool Palettes from the network folder you might think about creating your own Workspace and import your Tool Palettes to that Workspace. Ex- and Importing Tool Palettes for AutoCAD P&ID is no different than vanilla AutoCAD. So if this is new to you just look into the AutoCAD Help. 58

59 3D Content The Content folder for AutoCAD Plant 3D will be installed by default on your C: drive. The Content folder you be modified when installing AutoCAD Plant 3D already. Having the Content folder on your network drive has several advantages. Firstly the network folder will be probably backed-up frequently. Secondly, multiple users can now access the content to manage the content and create new specs. 59

60 If you want to change the content folder after the installation you just need to type in the Command: PLANTMODIFYSHAREDCONTENTFOLDER The following dialog shows up allowing you to change the content folder. If you copied your content folder to the new location yourself you just need to change the Shared Content Folder. If you didn t copy the Content folder you just need to check the box below the path and AutoCAD Plant 3D takes care of that as well. 60

61 It is recommended that you remove your local Content folder so there will be no confusion about which Content folder is the current one. Removing of course can be renaming as well. Or just zip the Content folder. You can change the Content folder in the Spec Editor as well. The dialog is the same as within AutoCAD Plant 3D. 61

62 Manage Data This chapter is about the various ways to take care of your data and what you can do with them. SQLite vs. SQL Server When you create a new project you can decide whether you want to have to project using SQLite (an open source database) or SQL Server (Express). 62

63 If you start your Project with SQLite you later can migrate your Project to SQL Server. Look for PnPProjectMaintenance.exe in your AutoCAD P&ID/Plant 3D program folder. The following dialog opens up: As you can see from the options once you migrated to SQL Server, there is no way back. When using SQLite the databases are conveniently located in your Project folder So copying a Project is no big deal. Just copy the whole Project folder. With SQL Server it is trickier. This is why Autodesk has developed the Project Maintenance Utility. SQL Server is recommended if you are running a project with more than just 1 or 2 person and the size of your Project is more than just a few pieces of equipment and piping. 63

64 Setting up Reports with AutoCAD Plant Report Creator The Report Creator is very powerful. You can create all kinds of list from AutoCAD P&ID or AutoCAD Plant 3D, but data sheets as well. 64

65 Here you see an example of a BOM from AutoCAD Plant 3D grouped by Pipe Line Number and then grouped by type. Valves however will be listed additionally with their Tags. 65

66 There is just no end on what you can do. Of course you can create various file formats. Report Creator is documented in the AutoCAD P&ID/Plant 3D Help F-D826F0174CA3.htm,topicNumber=PRUDd30e1128 As mentioned below there is an additional documentation about XtraReports (the layout part of Report Creator) under: 66

67 Export and Import settings Ex-/Import settings allow you to define which Classes and which Properties you want to have ex-/imported when using Data Manager. As you can see in the next dialog you select the Classes you want to export and you can define the Properties for each of the classes. 67

68 When you export to Excel you now you select the Export Settings you defined. 68

69 BTW: Under Value Mapping you can define a kind of translation mapping. For example if you export valves you could map like this: In your export the valves now the values for size look like this: Ex./Import settings can be defined for P&ID and Plant 3D separately. 69

70 Using views in Data Manager Views allow you to show a different structure in Data Manager. In the following example you see the definition of valves structured by Spec and then by Size. 70

71 The result in Data Manager is: If you select the 6, you see the 6 valves only. So for different requirements you can define how you want to see your Project/Drawing data. 71

72 Make use of Advanced Features Create a second Tag For a class you can set just one Tag Format. But sometimes you need a second Tag. For example you want a second customer specific Tag. Or maybe you just need to combine a property from several other properties (concat). For that you can use the command PLANTDEFINECALCPROPERTIES. You can create new properties fir P&ID, Piping, Isos and Orthos. 72

73 First you select the class then type in a Property name and select a Property type. Mostly you will select String. By making a double click on a Property the Property will be selected and put in the textbox. The double sign will put the Properties together (concat). The - text is just a delimiter between the Properties. If you are done setting up your Tag you need to click on Apply to have you Tag Definition stored in your project. The result in Data Manager looks like this. 73

74 Linking external Data sources AutoCAD P&ID and AutoCAD Plant 3D allow linking with external databases. Most of you don t know the command: PLANTXDBMANAGER This command is actually not even listed as a command in the AutoCAD P&ID/Plant 3D Help. If you start this command you get the following dialog. 74

75 Even though there is not documentation for that you should at least know what this can be used for. The first thing you do is to add/define a data source. This can be any database for which an OLE DB driver is installed (e.g. SQL Server or MS Access). MS Access however can be tricky, because you probably have AutoCAD P&ID/Plant 3D installed as a 64bit application. Your MS Office installation and with it the OLE DB driver for MS Access is probably running as a 32bit application. This won t work. So you either have to install MS Office 64bit (not recommended by Microsoft) or use a different databasae. After you established a valid data source you then define which table to look-up and which class to use. Then you define which Properties/Fields should be linked. This way the PLANTXDBMANAGER knows how to find the proper dataset in your external database. Last you define which Field from the database Table should be mapped to which Property in AutoCAD P&ID/Plant 3D. An alternative to the PLANTXDBMANAGER is PlantLink from the PlantTools series (see Consider 3 rd party solutions further down the document). PlantLink is much user friendly and more powerful. 75

76 Scripting in Report Creator Advanced users who like to do some development themselves you can add C#, VB or J# scripts into your reports. With that you can actually do almost anything you want. You can do complex calculations or in the following case you can get all the line sizes of one Pipe Line Group. If you have an example like this you have Line# 0001with 5 Pipe Line Segments. In you Line List you may want to see the Line# just ones, but you want to see all the different sizes used in this Pipe Line Group. With the following script you get all the sizes of one Pipe Line Group (this script works for metric sizes only). 76

77 using System.Collections.Generic; List<int> sizeslist = new List<int>(); private void AllSizesLabel_SummaryGetResult(object sender, DevExpress.XtraReports.UI.SummaryGetResultEventArgs e) { sizeslist.sort(); string str = ""; for (int i = sizeslist.count - 1; i >= 0; i--) { if (i < sizeslist.count - 1) { str += ","; } str += sizeslist[i]; } } e.result = str; e.handled = true; private void AllSizesLabel_SummaryReset(object sender, System.EventArgs e) { sizeslist.clear(); } private void AllSizesLabel_SummaryRowChanged(object sender, System.EventArgs e) { object val = GetCurrentColumnValue("PipeLines_Size"); if (val!= null) { int size; if (Int32.TryParse(val.ToString(), out size)) { if (!sizeslist.contains(size)) { sizeslist.add(size); } } } } 77

78 The result could look like this: Of course you could as well show the largest size only. Don t forget there is an extensive documentation of XtraReports at: 78

79 Consider 3 rd party solutions Some things can t be configured. It may take some development. Or maybe you have a task at hand about converting drawings There are several companies out there which can help. Here are some examples: Conversion between different CAD systems (UNITEC Germany, Handling all your data (CRM, ECM, EDM, PLM, PPS, PM, ERP) (AXAVIA Austria, Engineering and Admin Tools (CAD STUDIO ABCOM GmbH (ACPLANT) Germany, Pipe Spec Management (CLA Italy, Look at Plant Exchange ( 79