802.3NEA 10BP Consensus Call and 802.3cg 10SPE TF Ad Hoc Agenda 01 November 2017
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1 802.3NEA 10BP Consensus Ca and 802.3cg 10SPE TF Ad Hoc Agenda 01 November 2017 Peter Jones - Cisco 1 IEEE 802.3NEA 10BP Consensus Ca and 802.3cg 10SPE TF AdHoc
2 802.3 NEA AdHoc communications The NEA web page is here: A e-mai communication is via the NEA refector archive and subscription inks are here: 2 IEEE 802.3NEA 10BP Consensus Ca and 802.3cg 10SPE TF AdHoc
3 802.3cg 10SPE TF AdHoc communications The 802.3cg 10SPE TF web page is here: A e-mai communication is via the 10SPE refector archive and subscription inks are here: 3 IEEE 802.3NEA 10BP Consensus Ca and 802.3cg 10SPE TF AdHoc
4 Attendance Attendee names and affiiations for these ad hoc meetings wi be taken from the Webex participants ist. Pease ensure that your fu name and empoyer/affiiation are indicated correcty. If the Webex participants ist does not correcty indicate your name and empoyer/affiiation, pease send an e- mai to the TF and/or AdHoc chair. 4 IEEE 802.3NEA 10BP Consensus Ca and 802.3cg 10SPE TF AdHoc
5 Proposed Agenda Proposed agenda: IEEE patent and participation poicy (NEA) (10SPE) Approva of previous minutes 10BP Consensus & 802.3cg AdHoc ca 25 October, Presentations Discussion 5 IEEE 802.3NEA 10BP Consensus Ca and 802.3cg 10SPE TF AdHoc
6 Guideines for IEEE-SA Meetings 802.3NEA 10BP A IEEE-SA standards meetings sha be conducted in compiance with a appicabe aws, incuding antitrust and competition aws. Don t discuss the interpretation, vaidity, or essentiaity of patents/patent caims. Don t discuss specific icense rates, terms, or conditions. Reative costs, incuding icensing costs of essentia patent caims, of different technica approaches may be discussed in standards deveopment meetings. Technica considerations remain primary focus Don t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, aocation of customers, or division of saes markets. Don t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened itigation. Don t be sient if inappropriate topics are discussed do formay object If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manua, cause and Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Poicy for more detais. This side set is avaiabe at 15 March 2015 IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee
7 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform 802.3cg 10SPE A participants in this meeting have certain obigations under the IEEE-SA Patent Poicy. Participants [Note: Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Byaws subcause 6.2]: Sha inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed) of the identity of each hoder of any potentia Essentia Patent Caims of which they are personay aware if the caims are owned or controed by the participant or the entity the participant is from, empoyed by, or otherwise represents Shoud inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed) of the identity of any other hoders of potentia Essentia Patent Caims (that is, third parties that are not affiiated with the participant, with the participant s empoyer, or with anyone ese that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not appy if the patent caim is aready the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that appies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Eary identification of hoders of potentia Essentia Patent Caims is strongy encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Side #1 15 March 2015
8 Patent Reated Links 802.3cg 10SPE A participants shoud be famiiar with their obigations under the IEEE- SA Poicies & Procedures for standards deveopment. Patent Poicy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Byaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manua Materia about the patent poicy is avaiabe at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit This side set is avaiabe at Side #2 15 March 2015
9 Other Guideines for IEEE WG Meetings 802.3cg 10SPE A IEEE-SA standards meetings sha be conducted in compiance with a appicabe aws, incuding antitrust and competition aws. Don t discuss the interpretation, vaidity, or essentiaity of patents/patent caims. Don t discuss specific icense rates, terms, or conditions. Reative costs, incuding icensing costs of essentia patent caims, of different technica approaches may be discussed in standards deveopment meetings. Technica considerations remain primary focus Don t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, aocation of customers, or division of saes markets. Don t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened itigation. Don t be sient if inappropriate topics are discussed do formay object See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manua, cause and Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Poicy for more detais. Side #4 15 March 2015
10 802.3cg 10SPE Ca for Potentiay Essentia Patents If anyone in this meeting is personay aware of the hoder of any patent caims that are potentiay essentia to impementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not aready the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the hoder(s) of any and a such caims as soon as possibe or Cause an LOA to be submitted Side #3 15 March 2015
11 March 2017 IEEE 802 Participation Side, v NEA 10BP & 802.3cg 10SPE Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings Submission Participation in any IEEE 802 meeting (Sponsor, Sponsor subgroup, Working Group, Working Group subgroup, etc.) is on an individua basis Participants in the IEEE standards deveopment individua process sha act based on their quaifications and experience. ( section 5.2.1) IEEE 802 Working Group membership is by individua; Working Group members sha participate in the consensus process in a manner consistent with their professiona expert opinion as individuas, and not as organizationa representatives. (subcause Estabishment, of the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Poicies and Procedures) Participants have an obigation to act and vote as an individua and not under the direction of any other individua or group. A Participant s obigation to act and vote as an individua appies in a cases, regardess of any externa commitments, agreements, contracts, or orders. Participants sha not direct the actions or votes of any other member of an IEEE 802 Working Group or retaiate against any other member for their actions or votes within IEEE 802 Working Group meetings, see section and the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Poicies and Procedures, subcause Chair, ist item x. By participating in IEEE 802 meetings, you accept these requirements. If you do not agree to these poicies then you sha not participate. (Latest revision of IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Poicies and Procedures: Side 12 IEEE 802 Executive Committee
12 Presentations/timing Tite Presenter(s) Affiiation Time (mins) Start End Start and Administrivia Peter Jones Cisco 0:05 7:05 AM 7:10 AM 10BP Concensus Buiding Jon Lewis Amrik Bains Mandeep Chadha George Zimmerman De EMC Cisco Microsemi CME Consuting 0:20 7:10 AM 7:30 AM 10BASE-T1L and Cause 98 7:30 AM 7:35 AM Questions from October 25th Steffen Graber Pepper+Fuchs 0:05 10BASE-T1L PoDL Ideas 7:35 AM 7:55 AM Deferred from October 25th Steffen Graber Pepper+Fuchs 0:20 Piergiorgio Beruto 7:55 AM 8:10 AM Proposa for PSD Mask Adoption Gian Marco Bo Canova Tech 0:15 Short reach PCS and PMA proposa, Piergiorgio Beruto 8:10 AM 8:25 AM and PLCA baseine proposa Antonio Orzei Canova Tech 0:15 10SPE Encoding Comparison Hongming An Microchip 0:15 8:25 AM 8:40 AM Autonegotiation Use Cases Markus Wucher Endress+Hauser Fowtec AG 0:15 8:40 AM 8:55 AM Pan for next meeting George Zimmerman CME 0:05 8:55 AM 9:00 AM Tota 1:55 13 IEEE 802.3NEA 10BP Consensus Ca and 802.3cg 10SPE TF AdHoc
13 14 IEEE 802.3NEA 10BP Consensus Ca and 802.3cg 10SPE TF AdHoc
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